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Launch HN: InsideSherpa (YC W19) – online courses to train then hire students
apcomp 1589 days ago [-]
I did the JPMorgan Chase Internship a couple of weeks ago and I enjoyed it! Some bits (last 2 tasks) I was guided a bit too much through the PDFs but I definitely couldn't have done the tasks without them (maybe there should be a middle ground, give me the basics and let me finish the task?).

In terms of hiring, InsideSherpa mentions that I can give permission for recruiters to look at my work. This kind of put me off submitting an application for their internship. I guess it's the feeling of that they will look at my code and see that it's identical to the PDFs. I don't feel like my code will be able to differentiate me against other people. Also, since I followed the guide too much, if I was questioned on anything about the virtual internship in an interview, I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to answer it. Maybe it's just me and not InsideSherpa, and a sign that I should be solving the problems on my own without their guides.

Despite this, it is a good program. It gave me insights on what I would maybe be working on at JPMorgan. The reply rate/time of InsideSherpa's software engineers was high/quick and I was able to get assistance quickly. It exposed me technologies that I've heard of but never used before.

f00_ 1596 days ago [-]
I actually got a job after completing the modules for https://www.workatastartup.com, the last module asks you to apply at ycombinator companies.

Would recommend to others. The tasks aren't very difficult, there are PDFs that hold your hand pretty well.

Also completed the JP Morgan Chase one recently for fun. Wonder what the law ones are like.

pasharayan 1596 days ago [-]
Wow we didn't even know this happened! That's great to hear!

If you ever do want to switch careers and trade code for contracts you should give it a go haha! If anything working on these programs gave me a better appreciation of the jobs and tasks of other careers.

mettamage 1595 days ago [-]
What modules? No one reaches out to me via that site. Is it because I'm European?
f00_ 1595 days ago [-]
Possibly because you're european, most companies are US based and would need a to apply for a visa right?

This is the actual virtual internship I did, which doesn't actually seem accessible from the workatastartup website: https://www.insidesherpa.com/virtual-internships/prototype/o...

There's are frontend, backend and analytics modules.

sandGorgon 1595 days ago [-]
Very cool! At RedCarpet we have been hiring this way for years. The same problem exists in India..but 1000x worse. The ROCKS program (https://www.redcarpetup.com/rocks/) trains people and we hire from them. In fact, we have close to a 100% hire rate for people from the ROCKS program at other places.

Kudos for building this. I hope you find much success.

pasharayan 1595 days ago [-]
Oh wow that's so cool! I didn't know anyone was doing the model end-to-end like that in India - there's alot of improvements to employment to be had with this mindset I think.
gnaman 1595 days ago [-]
This is great! Just recommended rocks to a friend looking for an entry level position.
sandGorgon 1595 days ago [-]
thanks!
wurichard 1596 days ago [-]
10000% relevant. I’m a new grad and although I’m a startup founder now, I spent a good part my college years growing white hair while recruiting. The idea of shining a light in the corporate black box of recruiting and democratizing access to those nebulous “skills” that are so important to career advancement is, frankly, life changing. I genuinely genuinely wish I had this in college. Best of luck.
johnpowell 1596 days ago [-]
All the testimonials are of incredibly fantastic looking people. It almost feels like a crypto ICO were the CTO was just a random picture from Instagram. Feels fake or maybe you just tossed up people you found attractive that were actual clients.

Unfortunately looks are important so it might not be terrible to add people where I think "this could be me" instead of, "this seems fake".

pasharayan 1596 days ago [-]
Hey johnpowell thanks for the feedback! Are you referring to the student testimonials on the bottom of the homepage? We'll look into this.
josenriagu 1594 days ago [-]
I have just recently completed the JPMC virtual software engineering experience on InsideSherpa and I must say it is really a nice platform. First, you get warm reminder emails to remind you that someone is always available, should you run into any issues and also to push you to continue putting in the effort. Next, the platform is quite easy to navigate. The modules were clearly explained, with intro videos and next module is unlocked as you complete the current one. Finally, the documentation/instructions for each of the modules in the virtual experience were very detailed and helpful. I ran into some issues for missing a crucial part of the instructions. So do not ever miss a line of the documentation or instructional materials, you never know how much time that may cost you.
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taylanu 1593 days ago [-]
[1] I went through the JPMorgan Virtual Internship Experience, and honestly, at first, I watched the videos, got interested, then closed out the tab. I delayed and procrastinated for weeks before truly diving into it.

Over two days on and off in between classes, I got personal support from the team at InsideSherpa and completed the program. The guides were incredibly helpful, and I felt like I learned a lot from the modules. It was great seeing a finished product in the end with a live price ratio graph. Highly recommend the program!

garyisufi 1594 days ago [-]
I found the JPMorgan Chase Software Engineering Virtual Experience very useful. I learned a lot about JPMorgan Chase's framework and how to utilize my background in software with industry tasks. I believe the Virtual Experience was nicely structured as it gives guidance on how to complete each task with an element of freedom to add things you may find useful into the given files. I really appreciate the support given in completing each module and I would like to thank InsideSherpa for this wonderful experience!
omarhaneef 1595 days ago [-]
Um... this is really good actually.

How many internships/jobs do you have total.

If you can scale this, it will be amazing for students.

I know someone who would be a perfect candidate in London. Is there a way to focus the virtual internships by location?

pasharayan 1595 days ago [-]
We're working on a way to focus programs by geography! Currently we have 25+ programs live; I've just listed some of our ones with a direct UK alignment here:

JPMorgan Chase [Software] [We talk to their UK team]: https://www.insidesherpa.com/virtual-internships/prototype/R...

White & Case UK [Law]: https://www.insidesherpa.com/virtual-internships/prototype/H...

Linklaters [Law]: https://www.insidesherpa.com/virtual-internships/prototype/x...

Pinsent Masons [Law]: https://www.insidesherpa.com/virtual-internships/prototype/P...

abhinuvpitale 1596 days ago [-]
I really like this idea, its a super nice and relevant way to recruit. Rather than solving an obsolete algorithm question, this approach really enforces some pragmatism towards solving interesting and `relevant` problems.
pasharayan 1596 days ago [-]
Thanks for the kind words abhinuvpitale! Yes, this is exactly what we found - there's an irrelevance to some hiring processes because they tend to ask obsolete or academic questions.

One problem with asking pragmatic questions is that not everyone has had a chance to do practical work - hence why we also tackled that problem with an educational lens too.

kevinM1 1596 days ago [-]
Hi, I enjoyed the Inside Sherpa program i learnt a lot from doing it.

It definitely can give your CV a little edge by having a big company there.

Yet to hear anything from JP which is the virtual internship i completed, but i never expected it to be an instant entry ticket. Its only been around a week since completion so perhaps they may reach out to me. Afterall spending time doing an internship specific to their company should at least mean they contact me.

Other than this I feel that doing an InsideSherpa program is worth the cost of your time. I will keep this post updated if i receive and contact.

SimpleHello 1595 days ago [-]
It is very good that you guys are doing this. OK here is what I think.

It would be good to have more programs, in particular programming related programs. I have recently completed 1 of the programs, it did stimulate and provide some insights, but it did not have too much room for me to think, (not as 'interactive', as everything is given, I guess the participant can try to solve the problem by themselves first, but then they would need to learn more about a particular library or framework)

The support was also great

Thanks

J

maxxgrok 1595 days ago [-]
I participated in the JPMC program and the Deloitte program. Both were pretty great for getting my feet wet in software engineering and technology consulting in a real way. I'd recommend them as a free experience. They're pretty representative of what I imagine working for each company is like and were useful to gain some experience in each field.
t3ychenzhan 1596 days ago [-]
I finished the JPMrogan Chase Software Engineering Virtual Experience program.I love it! It's very helpful for CS students who look for industry experience. I learned a lot of practice coding skills from this program.It's sliently easy than I expected.But I think the idea is absolutely Coo1!!
ohfr 1596 days ago [-]
Completed the JP Morgan program, really enjoyed it! Definitely recommend for anyone looking for experience and a leg up in the market. The contents were straight forward, maybe a little easy but still help you learn.
imamun 1596 days ago [-]
The JP Morgan virtual internship was very helpful and had a very detailed guide. Although there were some minor compliance issues they were easily solved. Pasha also answered all my questions quickly and efficiently.
cliffdover 1596 days ago [-]
IMO there should be more information for international applicants. It's obvious that the outcome might not be the same if you live in certain regions.
pasharayan 1596 days ago [-]
Thanks for that feedback! One of the reasons we settled on an online course system is because they allow anyone, including international students on visas or students from other countries, to have a chance to upskill with these big firms.

We do take your point though about slightly different outcomes for people in different regions. We'll look to make that messaging clearer!

vaibhavverma9 1596 days ago [-]
Really cool. Wish I had this when I was in college. Makes sense to learn before hiring, rather than the other way around.
pasharayan 1596 days ago [-]
We had started InsideSherpa wanting to build something we wished we had in college!
MohammadRahman 1595 days ago [-]
I think InsideSherpa quickly gives a student what sort of skils are required in big companies, what sort of person a company is looking for. This is definitely something praiseworthy. I am grateful to them for giving me the opportunity to see the job environment.
jeremiahlee 1595 days ago [-]
“While Sherpas became famous in the Western world for their service to climbers, they are no more synonymous with a porter (the actual profession) than say, Americans are to cowboys.”

Excellent post by someone else who made the mistake of using "Sherpa" in a company name, learning about cultural respect, and rebranding.

http://lostmahbles.com/naming-a-mistake

rexpop 1596 days ago [-]
Why not hire, and then train your workers?
pasharayan 1596 days ago [-]
That's a great question! Feedback from employers about graduates have always been around new graduates and hires not being 'work ready' - and we've found many colleges aren't flexible enough to solve this problem quickly.

So our solution was why not give that training that makes everyone 'work ready' accessible to the world? That way when people do hire, they won't have that complaint anymore and people will know if they'd like the actual job itself!

thaumasiotes 1595 days ago [-]
It's a consequence of at-will employment. Everyone is afraid that the worker they just trained will immediately decamp to some other company that offers higher pay for trained workers than for untrained ones.
Alexbouaziz1 1596 days ago [-]
Love it! Congrats
cm2012 1596 days ago [-]
Super neat.
ywang551 1596 days ago [-]
I ACTUALLY got fast-tracked in JPMC Software Engineering after completing the program!
audreycaprianni 1596 days ago [-]
Love this idea! Students rarely have a meaningful opportunity to understand the scope of work they would do on the job until they do an internship. And depending on the uni/individual it could be the case you only intern at one company before locking in a graduate offer.

From a student perspective, I think it would be so valuable for students to do actual tasks to test for personal engagement, and also get recognised by the company for taking initiative to get to know them and the role.

jeremiahlee 1596 days ago [-]
Unless you’re a member of the Sherpa ethnic group, you are not any kind of “sherpa”. This is culturally insensitive to the 18 Sherpa clans.

Educate yourselves and rebrand:

https://qz.com/128842/the-problem-with-calling-your-career-c...

https://reclaimingsherpa.wordpress.com/2013/05/27/tweet-exam...

cm2012 1596 days ago [-]
There are about 5,000 English loan words that have other meanings to other cultures. It's not even slightly realistic to stop using them.
jeremiahlee 1595 days ago [-]
Sherpa was the name for an ethnic group long before English speaking people decided to reduce a culture to a single job.
isthisajokehaha 1596 days ago [-]
What a useless comment.
WrtCdEvrydy 1596 days ago [-]
:popcorn: as Americans appropriate anything for a few pennies.
Wordball 1596 days ago [-]
neither of the co-founders are American
esseeayen 1595 days ago [-]
Australian actually, and in this way I think they mean it as "a guide" is that the wrong use of the word?
jeremiahlee 1595 days ago [-]
Yes, it’s problematic. It’s reducing an ethnic group to one job.
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