Raed667 25 days ago [-]
When you work you're selling your effort and time for money. When you work during the weekend without compensation you're just giving your employer free labor.

Lots of people do this because they want to appear reliable, competent or dedicated. But usually it ends up just becoming an expectation of you and people around you.

The day you won't do it anymore you will be criticized (maybe not in your face) for it. And it would become expected of you.

If the workload is consistently overflowing to your weekend that means you are having issues estimating the time/effort it takes to finish your tasks.

bonyt 25 days ago [-]
> If the workload is consistently overflowing to your weekend that means you are having issues estimating the time/effort it takes to finish your tasks.

It could also mean that your employer is having issues estimating the time/effort it takes to finish your tasks. Or that they aren't, and just don't care.

Raed667 25 days ago [-]
From my (limited) experience teams usually estimate tasks themselves à-la "agile".

Overconfidence or people trying to show-off can have you underestimating the time it takes for things to be delivered thus causing these kind of situations.

muzani 24 days ago [-]
I've seen it go bad both ways. Inexperienced leaders often pressure them to push their estimates down.

Also working excess hours tends to screw with estimates as something in the head clicks that you can always work longer if the estimates are off. My estimates are strictly 40 hours/week, no more.

elindbe2 23 days ago [-]
In my (limited) experience, managers tend to guide (or force) team estimates down.
johnwheeler 25 days ago [-]
Don’t work weekends if you don’t want to. That’s just silly and it hurts coworker morale because people think they need to keep up with you.

When you’re on your deathbed, you’re not going to wish you spent more time working for your employer.

ziddoap 25 days ago [-]
I've gone out of my way, likely at the detriment of my career, to make sure my personal time stays personal. Obviously in a few extenuating circumstances there are exceptions - but other than that I don't even check email once I'm done for the day.

I watched my father work weekday and weekend throughout his life and never seeming to enjoy a minute of it. I knew that wasn't the life for me.

auslegung 25 days ago [-]
I have a young family, there’s no way I’m working more than 40 hours a week unless a rare emergency comes up. Raising healthy children and having a happy wife are far more important to me, my family, and society.

If I were single I’d be less of a stickler about this, but would still not be ok doing more than 45 on a regular. After 30-40 hours, more working hours rarely translates to more productivity.

muzani 24 days ago [-]
I find about 20 hours/week to be the cap. The remaining 20 hours is just sitting around the office recovering from the intensity of flow. Working a full 40 hours usually translates to less productivity and my workplace has recognized that.
auslegung 23 days ago [-]
I suppose it depends on the type of work, but as a web developer I’d be very unsatisfied with my team if we only got 20 real hours of work. On my previous team we did pair programming and had a very sustainable 30-32 hours a week. Now this did include ~3 hours of meetings, but they were always productive, good meetings.

Our trick was to work in 90-minute bursts, with 30 minute breaks where we actively stepped away, took a walk, played ping pong or Nintendo, got coffee, stretched, etc.

peruvian 25 days ago [-]
No. I leave my work laptop in the office Friday at 4pm and don't open it or think about it until Monday at 9:30am.

Unless you're self-employed or at a bootstrapped startup, why give your employer your free time?

astrodev 25 days ago [-]
I am fortunate enough to work remotely, so I can have a very productive environment during the week, too.

And what's not done by Friday, is not done, not my problem really since I'm paid by the hour.

fractallyte 25 days ago [-]
I work some weekends, but only because the job is so interesting.

Here's an example: our R&D team needs various national ID documents to train their AI (text recognition). But they hit a wall - where does one obtain 10s or 100s of IDs? Governments aren't handing out specimens. You can't walk up to random people on the street and ask to scan their ID card. Friends and family - too few!

So the only solution is to 'forge' documents... That's what I've been having fun with over the last few weekends!

avl999 23 days ago [-]
Anyone reading this who finds themselves in this situation- Quit that job and find a new one. There are too many opportunities in this industry to spend your time in a situation like this. Especially if you find yourself regularly working weekends and it's for someone else... not even your own startup.
Freak_NL 25 days ago [-]
Where are you from? Is it culturally expected of you to donate your time off to your employer?

My employer gets 36 hours a week as per the contract agreed between us. Incidental favours aside, any structural deviation of those hours comes at a significant cost to my family and my personal welfare (e.g., not getting round to odd jobs around the house, domestic chores, hobbies, leisure, sex, and raising a child).

So why are you working in your weekends?

If you enjoy working with distractions and it benefits your work, why not figure out a way to work from home on certain days in the week?

It is not normal to keep on working beyond the agreed upon hours if you are a salaried employee. You're life is simply too short to throw it away like that.

demygale 23 days ago [-]
You’re paid by the hour and getting time and a half, right? If not you are devaluing the labor pool for your coworkers. They make less money because of you. Maybe you think worldwide income inequality hasn’t grown large enough and it’s your job to push money upward toward ownership at the expense of your coworkers. If so, keep it up.
CyberFonic 24 days ago [-]
Are you asking as salaried staff, a contractor or startup founder?

Seems to me that many managers will extract as much work out of you as they can get away with. In some companies you are simply expected to work 70-80 hours a week - not only in programming, but in accounting and law firms too.

NZ_Matt 24 days ago [-]
No I intentionally only work the 37.5hours I'm contracted to and no more, hoping to get it down to 30hours this year. I'd only ever make an exception to that if I was working for myself.
sidthekid 24 days ago [-]
What's your age? I've noticed in my circle that single unmarried people have less pressing things to do after work, thus are open to working in the weekends, unlike people with families.
toomuchtodo 25 days ago [-]
No weekends, no work outside of business hours.
thedevindevops 22 days ago [-]
Evolved? I think you mean de-evolved!