muzani 28 days ago [-]
I was a contractor for FAANG.

A lot of FAANG contracts are covered heavily with a NDA, to the point I'm not actually allowed to talk about what the project is or which company I worked for. So it probably wouldn't be on my resume or portfolio.

The company involved masks their identity, probably going through some contracting agency. They scout you out, and probably want to avoid people spamming them for jobs. I actually did suspect when they contacted, because the organization of paying out well and offered a good salary for a simple job, and there's only a few companies in the world that can hire so many.

From experience, they do hire a heck lot of people. Most contract jobs are quite temporary though. Sometimes they're just scouting a new space and decide not to dedicate more effort to it. Sometimes they just need more assets for a project quickly and they can afford to throw money at any problem. They can probably just hire 100 people to do a little work each and a get a small experiment done quickly.

samfisher83 28 days ago [-]
Google has more contractors than FT employees. (100k vs 121k)

bradknowles 29 days ago [-]
In my experience, the claim is that they are needed to do sensitive work that can’t be trusted to contractors.

In my experience, that claim is almost always a giant load of bullshit.

gshdg 28 days ago [-]
Because you don’t outsource your core competency if you want to compete effectively.
eaenki 28 days ago [-]
Volatility and lack of context which are amplified in a big org bc it's full of bureaucracy. Also Wall Street and Washington like full-time employees. Also it's hard to enforce IP laws on a dude in India. They're mostly used for generic low-importance stuff.

I find contractors to be great only if they're from Northern Europe, Canada or UK. And only in startups since keeping costs low is a priority + there's not much context + you can on-board with minimal overhead.

artemisyna 29 days ago [-]
For ancillary roles, sometimes they do use contractors.

However, for code that needs maintenance of any sort, it makes a lot more sense to bring the expertise in-house. Maybe it's more expensive in a myopic sense, but by being able to retain an individual that already has context (not to mention, who was also probably hired with a higher hiring bar) has more gains in the long run.

Just think about all the companies that tried to outsource to India or China in the 90s/00s and got bit.

CyberFonic 28 days ago [-]
Experienced contractors are often more expensive than employees. Of course, they are typically more productive as well. Managers tend to be fixated upon the far greater costs instead of looking at the value for money.
matt_the_bass 28 days ago [-]
That is not always true. I know that a former colleague of mine now “works” for Waymo but she’s actually an employee of a large subcontractor.
codingslave 28 days ago [-]
Because they are built on great technology, not outsourcing and cost cutting
codegladiator 28 days ago [-]
> With the salaries of contractors being far lower

This is incorrect.

> with fewer stock and other grants

With lockin, its more of a benefit to the company. Stocks hardly mean anything much for the employee themselves.