hhw3h 34 days ago [-]
There is interesting psychology when it comes to learning. I'm a big believer that those who pay, pay attention.

Meaning, as a baseline, if I pay for a training I'm going to get more out of it because I'm psychologically motivated to do so because of the financial investment.

There are other ways to make someone "feel like they have skin in the game" but a price tag works.

The most recent online training I purchased was Brennan Dunn's "Double Your Freelancing Rate" course and it was definitely a good investment for me. It's easier to justify a course like this because it more of sales / marketing training and can quickly pay for itself in new business it helps you generate.

I used to subscribe to Avdi Grimm's Ruby Tapas which was another great investment at the time. I haven't purchased any of his courses, but Wes Bos looks to produce good premium content.

gmiller123456 33 days ago [-]
So long as we're just talking about programming stuff, I find Safari Books Online ($400/yr) to be well worth it. When you compare the value to the Angular classes mentioned in the OP at $130/each or $280 for the whole package, I'd think Safari is the obvious choice since it gives you access to so much more. While it's mostly books, there are a lot of video cources too. They have a free trial so you can see what they have first.

Before I subscribed to Safari, I subscribed to Packt Publishing's similar service ($100/yr) at the time. They also have video courses, but mostly books. All of their books are on Safari too. I found this so useful that I "upgraded" to Safari after the first year.

Outside of programming, in the days before MOOCs were popular, I had purchased a lot of The Great Courses classes. They are top notch, and live up to their name. Most of the ones I bought were on art history, general science/astronomy, and history. They are very in depth, usually anywhere from 30-60 hours of lectures, plus reading materials. I know they have a subscription service now, but last I checked the courses that would interest me most were available as part of that. They did (maybe still do) play games with their prices, having them cost $300-$400 regularly, then going on sale for $100 or so every year. You might also look for used copies on Ebay.

mcintyre1994 34 days ago [-]
I've mentioned his stuff a few times here, but I've bought most of Wes Bos' paid courses. I really enjoyed them and he's a great teacher. His free and premium courses are at wesbos.com/courses - I'd check out a free one and see if you like his style first, but it works well for me.
derekja 33 days ago [-]
Agree. I have definitely gotten good value out of his stuff.
torbjorn 33 days ago [-]
I took Udacity's Deep Learning Foundations nanodegree, that combined with a significant amount of github-as-resume legwork (plus two years sysadmin exp) landed me a job as a data engineer/analytics developer at a fortune 1000 company. Not bad considering my bachelor's is basically an agro-ecosystem design degree.

So I'd say it was worth the ~400 bucks.

slededit 33 days ago [-]
If you weren't after a job but rather "practical" knowledge to solve some problem - do you feel it would still be worth it?
torbjorn 26 days ago [-]
Yes. I do feel like I legitimately learned, that I didn't just get some certificate that I had to jump through arbitrary hoops for.

Of course you get out of it what you put into and paying money to learn seems to be a good motivator to learn etc.

stealthcat 32 days ago [-]
What do you make for github resume?
313v8r5h035 34 days ago [-]
I'm not of the opinion that a thoughtfully/skillfully developed curriculum is worth little. I'm not even sure you can generally buy its equivalent with patience as payment, so to speak. Personally, I found the Udacity self-driving car 'nanodegree' program to be worth the money (and time), although I haven't reaped any financial reward from it yet. However, I have also enjoyed and learned from free online courses (Coursera ML, ludobots).
shirajg 34 days ago [-]
I've started many online courses. The only ones I ever finished were the ones I paid for.
mcknz 34 days ago [-]
I have paid for Pluralsight in the past (right now I have a free subscription).

In my experience the courses are fairly comprehensive, and the quality of the videos is high.

Pluralsight started out fairly Microsoft-heavy, but their course catalog is expanding all the time into different platforms and technologies.

For what you get I think the price is reasonable.

thoughtpalette 33 days ago [-]
I second pluralsight.

Anecdotal: I tried learning angular2/TS through egghead but found I wasn't grasping simple fundamental concepts though the videos were quality. Tried pluralsight and they start from a point that gradually built my confidence in my knowledge. Been doing more and more courses on there pretty decently.

I will continue to checkout egghead first and pluralsight second if I'm not grokking it.

Disclaimer: Prior company provided egghead license, current company has a pluralsight employee license.

romdev 32 days ago [-]
Third recommendation for Pluralsight. My company also pays for it. I've watched 4 classes and they were all information-dense and easy to follow, although I found myself hitting pause and rewind a lot to take notes. At the end of each I felt at least competent enough to get started and look up other details when necessary.
gesman 34 days ago [-]
When i needed to learn something - I'd find relevant, quality course/content and filter it down to manageable quantity.

I wouldn't pay for online course to learn technology or language that contains piles of long videos.

However succinct, compressed course that explains everything in a couple - to - few hours - would be a good candidate.

handbanana 34 days ago [-]
I heavily vet sources first. Reading reviews, reddit threads, about the author, looking at the curriculum, etc. Youtube and udemy have a lot of bad stuff - but there are gems as well if you're willing to wade. I've used pluralsight in the past, it was pretty good. Again, I vetted their stuff before choosing which courses to watch. I have a list of resources for learning various things, that I've been compiling for a while now. 90% of the content is free - and that's not because I have anything against paid training.
imauld 30 days ago [-]
Totally, I've been working through this one and it's 100% worth it:

https://reactforbeginners.com/

Having someone experienced explain not only what to do but what _not_ to do is extremely valuable.

arbie 33 days ago [-]
I taught myself HTML5, CSS3, JS, and AngularJS in one month of signing up for CodeCademy Pro (mostly for the additional quizzes and live support).

Highly recommend it if you can devote a chunk of time to complete each course in one or two sessions.

The momentum in each lesson plan is significant and easily lost with a break in learning.

scarface74 33 days ago [-]
I find working toward a certification has helped me to learn a subject deeply. It's not about the cert itself. In the grand scheme of things, I've never used one to get a job. It's about setting a goal.

I've only done it twice. Back in 2008 I was trying to transistion from a C/C++ developer/bit twiddler to an "enterprise developer" using C#. I did the 6 test track and knew enough to have a broad overview and was a much better interviewee. I never put the certification on my resume.

Currently, I'm working on an AWS Certified Solution Architect Associate cert as a software architect, I need to know what is out there and it's forcing me to learn. I'm watching PluralSight videos, reading the books and watching YouTube videos.

jackgolding 33 days ago [-]
From one of the last discussions here seems like "learning how to learn" is worth doing on Coursera
gaius 33 days ago [-]
The stuff on https://academy.microsoft.com/ is good (and free if you don’t care about a certificate at the end). It’s a partnership with EdX, and not especially MS-centric
_Chief 33 days ago [-]
I find online courses not really as all in one but all-the-best in one. Meaning, all the conventional bits you need to know to be productive and, importantly, the gotchas that are often undocumented. This also means that it's not all in one and you still have to look at the docs. I usu go through an online course before a docs deep dive, and find this approach less time consuming than figuring out the docs coming in blind. I've got nearly all of Wes Bos' courses, and several Udemy courses notably Maxmilian's and Grider's. Also, 'Bash Shell Scripting' on Udemy that I usu. recommend to colleagues new to Linux.
FullMtlAlcoholc 33 days ago [-]
Logged in just to say that anything Tyler McGinnis does is more than worth it. His React Fundamentals course (free at the time) was so much clearer than any other online training courses as his presentation style makes things click immediately. Learning from him saved me so much time in comprehending React.

https://tylermcginnis.com

Also of note in the React Universe is Cory House. His teaching style is good, but he cracks too many bad jokes for my taste.

https://www.pluralsight.com/authors/cory-house

alt_f4 33 days ago [-]
shilling it up
FullMtlAlcoholc 33 days ago [-]
Look at my comment history.

I'm a real person who benefitted from these courses. Not everything on the internet is a shill or a scam

solomatov 33 days ago [-]
It's not related to angular, but I want to recommend SCPD: http://scpd.stanford.edu/ It's online education which is really worth its money.
quantumfoam 33 days ago [-]
Try checking out Oreilly's offerings and video training catalogue. Modern software training often with paths.

https://www.oreilly.com/

projectramo 33 days ago [-]
I wouldn't evaluate the course in a vacuum. Yes, there are good and bad courses with better and worse ways of explaining but many places have high quality courses (I recommend Udacity and Coursera).

However, are you the kind of person who can power through a course? Do you need a project to work on? Do you need peers and a live tutor?

First, know thyself.

If you are willing to put in the hours, then the actual cost of the course is miniscule by comparison. Udacity and Coursera (and EDX) let you audit the courses for free anyway.

dialo 33 days ago [-]
Treehouse, Lynda.com, Coursera - informative, well-designed courses, programs and certificates that have helped e quickly learn what I need to know. I cannot afford to spend time on poorly designed courses - nor do I have the time to try out unknown YouTube teachers. Udemy is ok - but I have wasted time theresearching for the quality courses. Treehouse, Lynda.com, Coursera are more professional curators and offer consistently higher quality courses in my opinion.
Tcepsa 33 days ago [-]
Also, some public libraries have partnerships with them to provide free access to anyone with a library card.
chaddattilio 33 days ago [-]
As mentioned Wes Bos has great in-depth courses on front-end stuff, also Tyler McGinnis. Frontendmasters.com is far and away the best site for front-end tutorials out there.
majortennis 33 days ago [-]
I tried out frontendmasters and really liked the format. Some of Kyle Simpsons stuff was great. Currently persuading employer to pay the annual fee for me. Although the courses are latest popular JS frameworks which although i'm kean to dabble. Aren't my employers first choice for paid training.
donttrack 34 days ago [-]
Usually only works for me if I start building something myself and learn it by doing and then afterwards take a class to fill the holes I missed. Usually I will learn a new trick or some alternative way of doing something.
Mononokay 34 days ago [-]
Depending on how much you're needing, knowledge-wise, I've heard incredibly good things about Lambda School.

Although if you're already in tech, it probably would be less than productive.

rmason 33 days ago [-]
I just completed Udemy's Nuxt.js - Vue.js on Steroids and it was awesome. Convinced me to try Nuxt on my next project.